The phrase “In the beginning” in John 1:1 does NOT dogmatically mean in the very beginning in the eternity past? But rather, in the LIGHT of the WHOLE word of Almighty God, the beginning in John 1:1 and in Genesis 1:1 is ANOTHER beginning that began around 6,000 to 12,000 years ago. In other words, God CUT DOWN the earth first around 12,000 years ago. And then God RESTORED the earth over six 1,000 long days. and on the sixth day, 6,000 years ago, God created MAN.
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The Beginning in John 1:1 is ANOTHER Beginning!
Let us begin this study in God’s word by reading John 1:1 from the LITERAL translation at Scripture4All.org so that you can see that the BEGINNING in John 1:1 is NOT the beginning in the eternity past.
Here is the LITERAL translation of John 1:1.
“In beginning was the SAYING and the SAYING was TOWARD the God and God was the SAYING.”
Please notice that in the original Greek text there is no definite article “THE” in front of the word “beginning”. And without the definite article “the” in front of the word “beginning”, then the beginning in John 1:1 does NOT dogmatically mean THE very beginning in the eternity past before Almighty God created ANYTHING. In other words, the beginning in John 1:1 could very well be ANOTHER beginning AFTER the earth became VOID and EMPTY in Genesis 1:2. Here are just some of the reasons for WHY I believe that the Bible itself teaches us that the beginning in Genesis 1:3-31, Proverbs 8:22-31, John 1:1, and 1 John 1:1 are ANOTHER beginning AFTER Lucifer and the fallen angels rebelled against God’s throne and waged war against God.
First of all, it makes no sense for God to have created EVERYTHING GOOD in Genesis 1:3-31, but in Genesis 1:1,2 God created the earth without form and VOID. The phrase “without form” is translated from the Hebrew word “toho” and one of its meanings is WASTED. In fact, all of its meanings are negative and certainly do NOT mean GOOD. Here is how the concordance in E-Sword defines the Hebrew word “toho”.
H8414
תֹּהוּ tôhû
to’-hoo
From an unused root meaning to lie waste; a desolation (of surface), that is, desert; figuratively a worthless thing; adverbially in vain: – confusion, empty place, without form, nothing, (thing of) naught, vain, vanity, waste, wilderness.
Secondly, Isaiah 45:18 CLEARLY teaches us in SIMPLICITY with no need of any interpretation that God did NOT create the earth in VAIN. The SAME Hebrew word “toho” that is translated as in VAIN in Isaiah 45:18 is the SAME Hebrew word translated as the earth was VOID in Genesis 1:2. So clearly, God did not CREATE the earth VOID. Therefore, the earth had to have COME VOID or in VAIN after God created it as you will soon see from the Scriptures. And one of the meanings of the English word “VAIN” is “USELESS”. And Isaiah 45:18 CLEARLY teaches us that God did NOT create the earth USELESS. But rather, God created it to be INHABITED. Let us go ahead and read Isaiah 45:18.
Isaiah 45:18.
“For thus says the LORD that created the heavens; God Himself that formed the earth and made it; He has established it, He created it NOT in VAIN, He formed it to be INHABITED: I am the LORD; and there is none else. ”
The phrase “God Himself” places emphasis that Yahweh Himself did something to the earth. So what did God Himself do to the earth? The King James Version translated the Hebrew word “yatsar” as God Himself FORMED it. And one of the meanings of the Hebrew word “yatsar” is God Himself DISTRESSED the earth, and then He MADE it. In other words, God created the heavens and the earth in the eternity past. Then God HIMSELF DISTRESSED the earth and MADE it HABITABLE again. The English word “DISTRESS” means to cause sorrow, pain, suffering, affliction, sorrow, grief worry, anxiety, and DESOLATION. He has ESTABLISHED it. And one of the meanings of the Hebrew word “kun” is He has FIXED it. He did NOT create it in VAIN, which is translated WITHOUT FORM in Genesis 1:2.
So, to me, the Hebrew word “hayah” translated as “WAS” in the past tense in Genesis 1:2 causes verse 1, and verse 2 to mean that God CREATED the earth WITHOUT FORM and VOID. And thus, that TRANSLATION of the Hebrew word “hayah” as the English word “WAS” causes Genesis 1:1;2 to CONTRADICT Isaiah 45:18. And the only way to HARMONIZE the Scriptures is to CORRECT the KJV translation of the Hebrew word “hayah” to COME without form and VOID.
Here is how E-Sword defines the Hebrew word “hayah”.
H1961
הָיָה
hâyâh
haw-yaw’
A primitive root (compare H1933); to exist, that is, be or become, come to pass (always emphatic, and not a mere copula or auxiliary): – beacon, X altogether, be (-come, accomplished, committed, like), break, cause, come (to pass), continue, do, faint, fall, + follow, happen, X have, last, pertain, quit (one-) self, require, X use.
Now, I myself, do NOT see the English word “WAS” anywhere is the definition of the Hebrew word “hayah”. So to me, the KJV and other Bible translations have ERRED in translating Genesis 1:1,2. And one INCORRECT translation can lead to ANOTHER INCORRECT translation. This brings me to my third reason for WHY the phrase “in THE beginning” does NOT dogmatically mean the VERY beginning in the eternity past in John 1:1. For you see, if the phrase “in THE beginning” in Genesis 1:1 does not dogmatically mean in the very beginning in the eternity past, then why would John 1:1 dogmatically mean in the very beginning in the eternity past?
So then, thirdly, the Hebrew word translated as VOID also means INDISTINGUISHABLE RUIN. And in my mind there is no way that God CREATED the earth as an UNDISTINGUISHABLE ruin. Here is how E-Sword defines the Hebrew word “boho”.
H922
בֹּהוּ
bôhû
bo’-hoo
From an unused root (meaning to be empty); a vacuity, that is, (superficially) an undistinguishable ruin: – emptiness, void.
Now, the meanings of words do change over time. And thus, one of the meanings of the English word “VOID” means to DISCHARGE or PURGE away unwanted substances. In other words, God Himself EMPTIED the earth of its unwanted wicked inhabitants. Please understand that all I am doing is SHOWING you OTHER meanings of the Hebrew and English words in order to HARMONIZE the Scriptures. For you see, to me, the way in which Genesis 1:1,2 is TRANSLATED in the KJV and in other Bibles as well, it CONTRADICTS Isaiah 45:18.
Fourthly, why would God tell man to multiply and REPLENISH the earth in Genesis 1:28 IF the earth had never had any life whatsoever before Genesis 1:3? The same Hebrew word translated as “REPLENISH” in the KJV is ALSO used in Genesis 9:1 after the FLOOD in the time of Noah. God told Noah to go and REPLENISH the earth. And clearly, the earth was INHABITED before the earth was FLOODED and covered with water having no DRY land. And, according to the commentary in E-Sword, the Hebrew word means to FILL, to make full and REPLENISH. Look it up for yourself.
Fifthly, in Genesis 1:9, God said let the DRY appear. The word “land” is not in the original Hebrew text, and the Hebrew word translated as “appear” in the KJV means to show self or to be seen. In other words, God separated that waters under the heavens so that the DRY ground could be SEEN again. To say this another way, the flood waters receded and dry ground APPEARED. It was already THERE and God made it DRY again.
And sixly, WHERE did Satan come from? Did God CREATE an ENEMY? That makes no sense!
God does NOT create evil, but rather, God CUTS DOWN evil. You see, the Hebrew word “bara” translated as created ALSO means to CUTDOWN, select, feed, and to choose. The Hebrew word “bara” translated as created in Genesis chapter 1, is only found in three verses, Genesis 1:1, 21, and 27. And in all three verses, the Hebrew word “bara” could be UNDERSTOOD and interpreted BOTH ways having a DUEL meaning. In other words, in Genesis 1:1, God created the heavens and the earth AND ALSO cut down the heavens and the earth that He created, but the cutting down happened many years later.
And in Genesis 1:21, God CUT DOWN the INSOLENT DRAGON AND created fresh life or made ALIVE the creatures that were killed during the Luciferian flood to cut down the evil. That was day five. Then on the sixth day God appointed all of the animals after their kind. The Hebrew word translated as “made” also means appointed. So God ORDAINED or FOUNDED some RULES for the earth. No more messing around making hybrid animals. And from now on, every animal will only produce after its KIND. So then, this may mean that SOME of the animals like the dinosaurs, God chose NOT to make them alive again. In other words, the GIANT animals MAY have been altered by Lucifer in or during the age before God created Adam and Eve.
And in Genesis 1:27, God created man for His Messiah to help Him FINISH making man in their image. But 7,000 years later, God will have to CUT DOWN the part of mankind that REJECTS His salvation.
So then, the TRUTH of the matter is that the Hebrew word in Genesis 1:2 that has been translated in the King James Version as the verb “WAS” in the past tense, actually means “come to PASS”. Here is how the E-Sword concordance defines the Hebrew word “hayah” that is wrongly translated as the verb “was” in the KJV. Please notice that the verb WAS is not even in the DEFINITION of the Hebrew word “hayah”. It literally means COMING, coming to pass, to become or the earth BECAME without form and void. Therefore, for the translators to translate it as WAS in the past tense MISLEADS Christians to wrongly believe that God CREATED the earth VOID, which CONTRADICTS Isaiah 45:18.
H1961
הָיָה
hâyâh
haw-yaw’
A primitive root (compare H1933); to exist, that is, be or become, come to pass (always emphatic, and not a mere copula or auxiliary): – beacon, X altogether, be (-come, accomplished, committed, like), break, cause, come (to pass), continue, do, faint, fall, + follow, happen, X have, last, pertain, quit (one-) self, require, X use.
So then, after the original creation in Genesis 1:1, the earth BECAME a WASTED desolation in Genesis 1:2. Think this through for yourself as you read the other MEANINGS of the Hebrew words in Genesis 1:2.
#1. And the earth BECAME without form, H8414
Here is how the E-Sword concordance defines the Hebrew word “tohu”.
H8414
תֹּהוּ
tôhû
to’-hoo
From an unused root meaning to lie waste; a desolation (of surface), that is, desert; figuratively a worthless thing; adverbially in vain: – confusion, empty place, without form, nothing, (thing of) nought, vain, vanity, waste, wilderness.
#2. And the earth BECAME a WASTED DESOLATION on the surface, H8414 and void H922.
Here is how the E-Sword concordance defines the Hebrew word “boho” H922 that is translated as “void” in the KJV.
H922
בֹּהוּ
bôhû
bo’-hoo
From an unused root (meaning to be empty); a vacuity, that is, (superficially) an undistinguishable ruin: – emptiness, void.
#3. And the earth BECAME a WASTED DESOLATION on the surface, H8414 and an indistinguishable RUIN that was EMPTY on the surface H922.
Here is how the E-Sword concordance defines the Hebrew word “boho” H922 that is translated as “void” in the KJV.
#4. And the earth BECAME a WASTED DESOLATION on the surface, H8414 and an indistinguishable RUIN that was EMPTY on the surface H922 and darkness H2822 was upon the face of the deep.
Here is how the E-Sword concordance defines the Hebrew word “” H2822 that is translated as “darkness” in the KJV.
H2822
חֹשֶׁךְ
chôshek
kho-shek’
From H2821; the dark; hence (literally) darkness; figuratively misery, destruction, death, ignorance, sorrow, wickedness: – dark (-ness), night, obscurity.
#5. And the earth BECAME a WASTED DESOLATION on the surface, H8414 and an indistinguishable RUIN that was EMPTY on the surface H922 and DEATH, DESTRUCTION, and WICKEDNESS of darkness called the NIGHT of disembodied OBSCURE unseen invisible evil spirits H2822 was upon the face of the deep.
Now, I placed the verb “was” in light green because it is NOT in the original Hebrew text. The Hebrew word translated as “upon” also means BECAUSE OF. The Hebrew word translated as “face” also means ANGER. And the Hebrew word translated as “deep” also means the UPROAR of the ABYSS. So then, let us now use these other meanings in place of the last phrase “upon the face of the deep.”
#6. And the earth BECAME a WASTED DESOLATION on the surface, H8414 and an indistinguishable RUIN that was EMPTY on the surface H922 and DEATH, DESTRUCTION, and WICKEDNESS of darkness called the NIGHT of disembodied OBSCURE unseen invisible evil spirits H2822 BECAUSE OF the ANGER of God’s wrath AGAINST the UPROAR of the ABYSS.
Now, with all of these meanings of these Hebrew words in mind, do you really think that God CREATED the earth as a WASTED DESOLATION on the surface, H8414 and an indistinguishable RUIN that was EMPTY on the surface H922 and DEATH, DESTRUCTION, and WICKEDNESS of darkness called the NIGHT of disembodied OBSCURE unseen invisible evil spirits H2822 BECAUSE OF the ANGER AGAINST the UPROAR of the ABYSS, when EVERYTHING else God created was VERY GOOD, according to Genesis 1:31?
NO! Absolutely NOT! So then, it was AFTER Lucifer rebelled AGAINST Almighty God that he BECAME God’s ADVERSARY or God’s ENEMY. And God is in the process of JUDGING Satan and the fallen angels, by using an inferior species of beings that He created a little LOWER than the angels to use as His FAITHFUL WITNESSES to JUDGE the fallen angels. One third of the angels BECAME corrupt as a choice that THEY made to rebel against God’s throne of authority.
For you see, the word “Satan” means adversary in the Hebrew and accuser in the Greek. And thus, BECAUSE of the ANGER of God’s WRATH against the rebellion or UPROAR of the abyss, the surface of the earth BECAME as a WASTED DESOLATION on the surface, H8414 and an indistinguishable RUIN that was EMPTY on the surface H922 and DEATH, DESTRUCTION, and WICKEDNESS of darkness called the NIGHT of disembodied OBSCURE unseen invisible evil spirits BECAUSE OF the ANGER AGAINST the UPROAR of the ABYSS.
Here are the meanings of the word Satan.
H7854
שָׂטָן
śâṭân
saw-tawn’
From H7853; an opponent; especially (with the article prefixed) Satan, the arch enemy of good: – adversary, Satan, withstand.
G4567
Σατανᾶς
Satanas
sat-an-as’
Of Chaldee origin corresponding to G4566 (with the definite article affixed); the accuser, that is, the devil: – Satan.
So then, seeing that God CREATED everything GOOD and perfect, it is a CONTRADICTION to “interpret” the Scriptures to mean that God CREATED Lucifer as being WICKED. Therefore, Lucifer and the fallen angels rebelled in an UPROAR against God to wage a WAR to try to take over God’s throne. And that was BEFORE God RESTORED the earth in Genesis 1:3-31 to be habitable once again. A FLOODED earth is NOT habitable.
And in the creation account in Proverbs 8:22-31, we see in verses 30 and 31 that it was as IF “wisdom”, a figure or personification of Jesus, was brought up with God. For you see, verse 31 is a PROPHECY of the future Son of God rejoicing in the HABITABLE part of the earth BEFORE God restored the FLOODED earth to be habitable once again. Please read the study called V-21. What Does Proverbs 8:22-31 TRULY Mean?
And that means that God did NOT need a PLAN of salvation until AFTER Lucifer rebelled against God and God SHOOK the earth in His wrath in Genesis 1:1. And the earth BECAME void and without form in Genesis 1:2 because of the WAR that Lucifer and the fallen angels waged against God.
For you see, the Hebrew word “rosh” used in Proverbs 8:23 and again in verse 26 is wrongly translated. It is translated as “beginning” in Proverbs 8:23, but it literally means to SHAKE. And thus, Proverbs 8:23 should have been translated as “I was ANOINTED to be king from out of God’s mind at the time of the SHAKING of the earth.” Therefore, the phrase, “the Lamb was SLAIN before the FOUNDATION of the world” means that God devised His PLAN of salvation AFTER Lucifer rebelled against God, but BEFORE God RESTORED the earth to be HABITABLE once again in Genesis 1:3-31. Please read the study Q-5. What is the Foundation of the World?
And that means that God did NOT need a PLAN of salvation until AFTER Lucifer rebelled against God. Therefore, the phrase, “the Lamb was SLAIN before the FOUNDATION of the world” means that God devised His PLAN of salvation AFTER Lucifer rebelled against God, but BEFORE God RESTORED the earth to be HABITABLE once again in Genesis 1:3-31.
And that means that the BEGINNING in John 1:1 is NOT the very beginning in the eternity past as Christians have been taught by church TRADITION. So then, let us now closely examine John 1:1-3, word by word by looking at the meanings of each word in the ORIGINAL Greek text.
Here is John 1:1 with the Strong’s numbers right after each word that is in the original Greek text. The word “the” in light green letters is NOT in the original Greek text. And thus, it was ADDED by the translators. And the word “THE” highlighted in orange was LEFT OUT of the King James Version by the translators.
John 1:1 with the Strong’s numbers.
In G1722 the beginning G746 was G2258 the G3588 Word, G3056 and G2532 the G3588 Word G3056 was G2258 with G4314 THE God, G2316 and G2532 the G3588 Word G3056 was G2258 God. G2316
So then, in the LIGHT of what we have just learned, the beginning in Genesis 1:3-31 was the RESTORATION of the earth to be habitable once again after the earth BECAME as a WASTED DESOLATION on the surface, H8414 and an indistinguishable RUIN that was EMPTY on the surface H922 and DEATH, DESTRUCTION, and WICKEDNESS of darkness H2822 BECAUSE OF the ANGER AGAINST the UPROAR of the ABYSS.
In other words, since the BEGINNING in Genesis chapter 1 is the SALVATION of the earth, so to speak, then WHY would John 1:1 be the VERY beginning in the eternity past? To say this another way, think of the beginning in John 1:1 as the beginning of God’s PLAN of SALVATION!
For you see, it makes no sense for God to devise a plan of SALVATION BEFORE God created the entire Universe. I mean, to interpret that God devised His plan of salvation BEFORE God ever created ANYTHING, is to say that God did not know how to create His creatures GOOD. Think about this for a moment, would God say to Himself, I better have a plan to save my creation just in case I mess up? Or would God say to Himself, I am going to deliberately create man to FALL just so I can save them? NO! Absolutely NOT!
It makes far more SENSE to know and understand that the BEGINNING in Genesis 1:3-31, in John 1:1, and in Proverbs 8:20-31 are ALL ANOTHER beginning AFTER Lucifer and the fallen angels waged WAR against Almighty God. Please read ALL of the studies under the heading called >>>Q-0. WHY are we HERE?-Is God at WAR?<<<
But for now, here is a NEW FRESH translation at John 1:1 using OTHER meanings of the Greek words translated as the phrase “In the beginning”.
The Greek word translated as “In” also means “AT”. And the Greek word translated as “beginning” also means “FIRST”. Also, the Greek words translated in the CONTEXT of John 1:1 have OTHER meanings as well. So let us read John 1:1,12-14 with those other meanings first. And then we will come back and take a fresh new look at the rest of the context in John 1:1-14.
A NEW FRESH translation of John 1:1,12-14 using OTHER meanings of the Greek words.
“AT FIRST was the SAYING, and the SAYING was with THE God, and the SAYING was A God…(To rule FOR Yahweh in the NAME of Yahweh during the world to come for 1000 years)
…12. But as many as received him, to them he gave power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on His name: (Speaking of the now glorified Son of MAN, Jesus, as being or more precisely, becoming the NAME of Yahweh)
13. WHO was born, (Speaking of being born as a human being FIRST and then being born-again as the FIRSTBORN from the DEAD to become the FIRSTBORN among many BRETHREN that he gave power to ALSO become sons of God, was BORN) not of blood, (Or not having a HUMAN biological father) nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.
14. SO THEN, the SAYING was made to become FLESH and lived among us. MOREOVER, we beheld his glory, the glory IN THAT MANNER of the only begotten of the Father, FULL of JOY and truth.”
With that being said, let us now read the LITERAL translation of John 1:1-3. And as you read the literal translation, please notice that the English word “THINGS” is NOT in the original Greek text. Therefore, the words “the ALL” are referring to God’s NEW creation of NEW CREATURES created IN Jesus Christ, and NOT the original creation in the eternity past.
Here is the LITERAL translation of John 1:1.
“In beginning was the SAYING and the SAYING was TOWARD the God and God was the SAYING.
2. THIS (Or the SAME, referring to THIS SAYING, and God was the SAYING) was in beginning TOWARD THE God.
3. And ALL through SAME came to be and apart from SAME became to be not yet even ONE which (Or not yet even ONE WHO) has come to be”
Now, we, as Christians, are called the ALL by the Apostle John and also by the Apostle Paul. And we are ALL BORN of God THROUGH the written and the spoken WORD of Almighty God, according to 1 Peter 1:22,23.
Please read 1 Peter 1:22,23.
“Seeing you have purified your souls in obeying the TRUTH through the Spirit unto unfeigned love of the brethren, see that you love one another with a pure heart fervently:
23. Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which lives and abides forever.”
In other words, we HEARD the TRUTH of the gospel of SALVATION to be born again by the WORD of Almighty God which lives and abides forever. The Greek word “logos” in 1 Peter 1:23, which we ALL HEARD and believed to be born again to become a NEW CREATURE created by God IN His Son Jesus Christ, is the SAME Greek word “logos” used in John 1:1,14.
So then, in the original Greek text, the “logos” is God’s SPOKEN word which lives and abides forever. Therefore, the Greek word “logos” should have NEVER been capitalized as the “Word” in John 1:1,14 or in any of the other three verses of Scripture, 1 John 1:1, 1 John 5:7, and Revelation 19:13. The earlier English translations before the KJV did NOT capitalize the word as the Word. And some of the earlier translations CORRECTLY used the pronoun “it” that referred back to the word in John 1:1. For you see, is not the SPOKEN word that comes out of your mouth an IT? YES! Absolutely, the word you speak is an IT and NOT a separate person from yourself who is WITH you.
I want you to read some earlier translations that came BEFORE the King James translation so that you can see for yourself that earlier Christians, before the King James translation, understood that the word in John 1:1 was an IT. They understood that the “LOGOS” of God was His SPOKEN word that came forth OUT FROM God’s MOUTH as God’s word of PROPHECY.
Tyndale Bible 1535. From an online translation.
John 1:1-5,14.
“In the beginnynge was the worde and the worde was with God: and the worde was God. (Notice that the old English word “worde” or “word” is NOT capitalized as it is in the modern translations as “Word” from the time of King James Version to the newest translation of today)
2. The SAME was in the beginnynge with God. (Speaking of the logos or the word was in the beginning with God not as a separate person of a Godhead Trinity. But rather, IT was God’s THOUGHTS in the form of His word in His mind which God spoke forth out from His mouth)
3. All thinges were made by IT and with out IT was made nothinge that was made.
4. In IT was lyfe and the lyfe was ye lyght of men
5. and the lyght shyneth in the darcknes but the darcknes comprehended it not. …
…14. And the worde was made flesshe and dwelt amonge vs and we sawe the glory of IT as the glory of the only begotten sonne of ye father which worde was full of grace and verite.
Geneva Bible 1560. From an online translation.
“In the beginning was that Word, and that Word was with God, and that Word was God. (This is actually the 1599 translation. The 1560 Geneva Bible translation does NOT capitalize the word “word” as being “Word” until the 1599 edition. I could not find an online copy of the 1560 version)
2. This SAME was in the beginning with God.
3. All things (Keep in mind that the English word “things” is NOT in the original text) were made by IT, and without IT was made nothing that was made.
4. In IT was life, and that life was the light of men. (Notice that all the pronouns referring back to the Greek word “logos” are the pronoun IT instead of the pronoun “he” in the King James Version and the modern translations.)
5. And that light shineth in the darkenesse, and the darkenesse comprehended IT not….
… 14. And that Word was made flesh, and dwelt among vs, (and we sawe the glorie THEREOF, as the glorie of the onely begotten Sonne of the Father) full of grace and trueth.”
Matthew Bible 1535. From an online translation.
John 1:1-5.14.
“In the beginning was the word, and the word was with God, and the word was God. (Again, please notice that these earlier translations BEFORE the King James translation did NOT capitalized the Greek word “logos” that is translated as the English word “word”)
2. The SAME was in the beginning with God.
3. All things were made by IT, (Speaking of the “logos” the spoken word or saying of God. Keep in mind that the English word “things” is NOT in the original text) and without it was made nothing that was made.
4. In IT (Speaking of the “logos”, the spoken word or saying of God) was life, and the life was the light of men.
5. And the light shines in the darkness, but the darkness comprehended IT (Speaking of the “logos” the spoken word or saying of God which God prophesied out from his mouth that was made flesh) not….
…14. And the word was made flesh and dwelt among us. And we saw the glory of IT,(Speaking of the “logos” the spoken word or saying of God that was made flesh and then HIGHLY EXALTED to become the eternal Son of God) as the glory of the only begotten (The GOAL that was TOWARD the God when God restored the earth and created the human race INFERIOR to the angels for a specific reason. So right now, the highly exalted Son of MAN is the ONLY generated) Son of the Father, which word was full of grace and truth.”
I could not find all eight translations online to copy and paste, but they all use the pronoun IT instead of the pronoun “he”. And they do NOT capitalize the word “word”. Not all Christians are aware that the “LOGOS” is an IT and not a HE. Even the King James Version uses the pronoun IT for the word of God in Isaiah 55:11.
“So shall MY word be that goes forth OUT OF MY MOUTH: IT shall not return unto me void, but IT (Speaking of the FULFILLMENT of the prophecy made flesh to become the Son of MAN anointed by God at age 29) shall accomplish that which I please, and IT (Speaking of the FULFILLMENT of the prophecy made flesh to become the Son of MAN anointed by God at the age of 30 years, four months and five days old) shall prosper in the thing whereto I sent IT.”
Again, speaking of the FULFILLMENT of the prophecy made flesh to become the Son of MAN anointed by God at the age of 30 years, four months and five days old. Jesus LEARNED to become obedient to do all his God and Father’s WILL even to die on the cross. For you see, that was the GOAL that was TOWARD God in ANOTHER beginning right before God RESTORED the earth to create man in HIS image. Remember that God made humans a little LOWER than the angels. And that means that God created the angels BEFORE Genesis 1:3-31. And therefore, God did not contrive His plan of salvation for His Lamb to be SLAIN until AFTER Lucifer and the fallen angels waged a WAR against Almighty God.
So then, Almighty God sent IT, His SPOKEN word of PROPHECY, and the IT was made to become flesh. The IT is referring to the prophesied word that FIRST became or was made a human CHILD first that was given the name Jesus. That is when the word was made to become a he. And thus, the FULFILLED IT is the word made FLESH in John 1:14 being born of a VIRGIN. Then that CHILD grew up to become the Son of MAN. The Son of MAN was prophesied to be God’s ANOINTED with POWER to accomplish his God and Father’s will. Then AFTER the anointed Son of MAN accomplished all of the Will of his God and Father, THEN Almighty God HIGHLY EXALTED His human Son to become a God under and subject to his God and Father. And thus, Jesus is the WORKMANSHIP of Almighty God the Father. Jesus is the FULFILLMENT of God’s PROPHECY which Yahweh Himself prophesied and PERFORMED.
Again, God MADE His human Son both Lord and Christ AFTER the cross and the resurrection, according to Acts 2:36. For you see, Yahweh the Father gave the now glorified Son of MAN a NEW NAME that is higher than any other name. And I believe that the NEW NAME of Jesus is Yah Yahweh. I believe that Yahweh gave His FIRST begotten eternal Son His very own name to rule and reign for 1000 years in the NAME OF Yahweh. And that is why I myself believe that John 1:1 should be read and understood as a PROPHECY. And the PROPHECY was all planned out in the MIND of God right BEFORE the beginning of the RESTORATION of the earth, For you see, part of the PLAN of salvation is the PROPHECY that God’s Messiah shall become another God to REPLACE Lucifer as the God of the whole earth. Again, please read all of the studies under the heading >>>Q-0. WHY are we HERE?-Is God at WAR?<<<
But for now, let us take a CLOSER look at the Greek word “pros” translated as the word was WITH God in John 1:1,2.
John 1:1,2.
“In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was WITH (PROS) God, and the Word was God.
2. The same was in the beginning WITH (PROS) God.”
Please notice that I did NOT yet highlight the word God the second time that the word “God” is used in verse 1. For you see, the SECOND time that the word God is used in verse 1 is what we are STUDYING in the study. We are searching the Scripture directly from the Holy Bible to see IF the second time that the word “God” is used in verse 1 was INTENDED by the Apostle John to be referring to the one true and only Almighty God. In other words, does the phrase, “the Word was God in John 1:1 c truly mean that the Word was a separate divine person of God who was WITH God at God’s side and who was ALSO the Almighty God Himself?
Or does the phrase “the Word was God” mean God’s SPOKEN word which was made to BECOME a God under and subject to his God and Father who MADE him Lord after the cross and resurrection? In other words, in the phrase “And God was the SAYING” a PROPHECY of the spoken word BECOMING a God in the future after the cross and resurrection just as it was FULFILLED in the Scriptures.
Now, you can continue to believe whatever you desire to believe, but I have chosen to believe only what God has shown to me directly from His word of truth, the Holy Bible. And if you TRULY want to know the INTENDED meaning of the words of the Apostle John then you should read this entire study all the way to the end no matter how much what I have come to believe may offend your religious spirit. For you see, it is only a person with a HAUGHTY heart who answers a matter BEFORE he or she hears the WHOLE matter.
Proverbs 18:12,13.
“Before destruction the heart of man is haughty, and before honor is humility.
13. He that answers a matter BEFORE he HEARS it, it is folly and SHAME unto him.”
So then, to me, the INTENDED meaning of the Apostle John using the Greek word “PROS” in the gospel of John was NOT that the word was a divine being who was supposedly WITH God. In other words, John never INTENDED his words to mean the word was a separate person named the Word who was alongside God in the eternity past. That is NOT the INTENDED meaning of the Apostle John’s words.
For you see, whenever the Apostle John INTENDED to mean that another person was WITH someone else, then he used the following four Greek words. John used the Greek word “PARA”, the Greek word “AUTOS”, the Greek word META, and the Greek word “SUNERCHOMAI or SYNERCHOMAI” when referring to a person being with another person in the same place.
Here are ALL the verses in the gospel of John that have the English word “WITH” in them where the word “with” means in the presence and company with another person. And, as you will notice, not one single time does John use the Greek word “PROS” when he INTENDS to mean that a person was WITH another person.
John 1:39 they abode WITH (Para) him
John 3:2 except God be WITH (Meta) him
John 3:22 he tarried WITH (Meta) them
John 3:26 he that was WITH (Meta) you
John 4:27 he talked WITH (Meta) the woman
John 4:40 he would tarry WITH (Para) them
John 6:3 he sat WITH (Meta) his disciples
John 6:22 Jesus went not WITH his disciples (Suneiserchomai Strong’s number 4897 means to accompany with)
John 6:66 many of his disciples went back and walked no more WITH (Meta) him
John 7:33 yet a little while I am WITH (Meta) you
John 8:29 he that sent me is WITH (Meta) me
John 9:37 he that talks WITH (Meta) you
John 9:40 the Pharisees which were WITH (Meta) him
John 11:16 let us go that we may die WITH (Meta) him
John 11:31 The Jews then which were WITH (Meta) her
John 11:33 The Jews also weeping which came WITH (Sunerchomai 4905)
John 11:54 Jesus continued WITH (Meta) his disciples
John 12:2 Lazarus was one of them that sat at the table WITH (Sunanakeimai 4573) him
John 12:8 the poor you always have WITH (Meta) you
John 12:17 the people that were WITH (Meta) him
John 13:18 he that eats bread WITH (Meta) me
John 13:33 yet a little while and I am WITH (Meta) you
John 14:9 Have I been so long WITH (Meta) you
John 14:16 he shall give you another Comforter that he may abide WITH (Meta) you
John 14:17 he dwells WITH (Para) you
John 14:23 and make our abode WITH (Para) him
John 14:25 These things have I spoken unto you being yet PRESENT WITH (Para) you
John 15:27 you have been WITH (Meta) me from the beginning
John 16:4. I was WITH (Meta) you
John 16:32 I am not ALONE because the Father is WITH (Meta) me
John 17:5. I had WITH (Para) you
John 17:12. I was WITH (Meta) them
John 18:1 he went WITH (Sun) his disciples
John 18:2 Jesus often resorted (Or met) there WITH (Meta) his disciples
John 18:18 Peter stood WITH (Meta) him
John 18:26 Did I not see you in the garden WITH (Meta) him
John 19:18 Where they crucified him and two others WITH (Meta) him
John 19:32 and of the other which were crucified WITH (Meta) him
John 20:24 But Thomas. One of the twelve, called Didymus, was not WITH (Meta) them
John 20:26 and Thomas WITH (Meta) them
John 21:3 we also go WITH (Sun) you
So then, to me, John never INTENDED his words in John 1:1,2 to mean that the word is another separate person who was with God at His side in the eternity past.
The TRUE INTENDED meaning of the Greek word “PROS” by the Apostle John in John 1:1,2 is that the word was TOWARD God. As in, the word was WITHIN God having a DIRECTION or GOAL that the spoken word would BECOME. And that direction or goal was that His human Son, Jesus, would be HIGHLY EXALTED by Yahweh to BECOME the God of the whole earth to rule and reign FOR Yahweh in the NAME OF Yahweh, the Father for 1000 years.
To say this another way, the SPOKEN word that came forth out from the mouth of God as God’s word of prophecy came to pass just as God said it would. God SPOKE the END from the BEGINNING. In “A” beginning was the word, and the word was WITHIN the God, and the word, as in the spoken word of God as God’s word of prophecy was “A” God. And every Christians agrees that Jesus is God and that he will rule and reign for 1000 years in the world to come on his Father’s throne.
So all I am asking my fellow dear brothers and sisters in our Lord Jesus Christ is to CONSIDER the POSSIBILITY that INTERPRETATION by church TRADITION is WRONG. And the word in John 1:1-18 is the SPOKEN word of Yahweh that came forth out from the MOUTH of Yahweh, which He then watched over to PERFORM it and bring it to PASS.
Now, even very well-known Trinitarian Bible teachers are starting to AGREE with Biblical Unitarian Christians that the word in John 1:1 is NOT a SEPARATE divine being who was with God at God’s side in the eternity past. But yet, SOME of the hard core Trinitarian Christians STILL hold fast to the doctrine of the Trinity. And they continue to USE John 1:1 as one of their proof texts. To me, that is like saying, I am fully aware that John 1:1 does NOT prove that God the Son pre-existed in the eternity past, BUT I am still going to use John 1:1 anyway, because most Christians do not KNOW that the word in John 1:1 is NOT God the Son.
Please take a few minutes and watch this video. Trinitarian Michael Brown Agrees with Unitarians on John 1:1 And then, please be sure to come right back to continue seeking the TRUTH of the WHOLE word of Almighty God here at AMatterOfTruth.com. Please understand that I am NOT teaching against ANY Christian, but rather, I am teaching against the errors of the INTERPRETATION of the Scriptures.
I could not find any links to some of these earlier translations to read online.
Geneva Bible 1560 I could not find the 1560 Edition online so I give you a link to the 1599 Edition.
The Tavner Bible 1539
The Great Cranmer’s Bible 1539
The Whittingham Bible 1557
All eight of these translations use the pronoun IT that refers back to the Greek word “logos” translated as the “word”. While all the modern translations, starting with the King James Version, stopped using the pronoun IT and started using the pronoun “he” instead. And all the newer translations started capitalizing the word as the Word.
Also, here is a link to the LITERAL translation that I use. It is translated for the Textus Receptus as is the King James Version. But there are many differences in this more literal word for word Interlinear translation. This literal translation translates the Greek word “logos” as “the SAYING was towards ‘THE’ God and God was the SAYING”.
The literal translation says the SAME was light and without the SAME was not one made, that was made.
In other words, the SAYING became the light of the world to DIVIDE the darkness from the light. And without the SAYING or without the word made flesh to be the Light of the world, not ONE became that BECAME.
Here is John 1:1-5,14 from the LITERAL translation.
“In beginning was the SAYING and the SAYING was TOWARD THE God and God was the SAYING.
2. THIS was in beginning TOWARD THE God.
3. ALL (Speaking of every NEW creature created by God IN Jesus Christ) through SAME BECAME and apart from SAME became NOT YET ONE which HAS BECOME (Now to ME, I am seeing that this verse is speaking of THE ALL of every NEW CREATURE who has become created IN Jesus Christ. I personally do NOT see this verse speaking of the creation of the entire universe in eternity past)
4. In SAME life was, and the life was the LIGHT of the humans. (The spoken and the written word of God is the LIGHT or the understanding of eternal life that Jesus taught)
5. And the LIGHT in the darkness is appearing and the darkness it not down got (Or the darkness did not understand the gospel of Jesus Christ)…
…14. And the SAYING flesh became as booths (Or tabernacles or dwells in us or among us) and we gaze the esteem, (Or the glory of him) esteem (Or the glory of him) as of only GENERATED beside Father full of grace and truth.”
Again, my point is that the LITERAL translation and all the earlier translations do NOT capitalize the word “word” as “Word” and they do NOT use the pronoun “he” to SWAY the reader to wrongly believe that the “LOGOS” is a pre-existing God the Son, the second person of a Godhead Trinity God. So to me, I see that translators of the LITERAL translation are trying to be HONEST in their translations to let us know that the SPOKEN “LOGOS” or the SPOKEN word or the SPOKEN SAYING of God became flesh and NOT God the Son became flesh.
The English word “THINGS” is NOT in the original Greek text in verse 3. So then, to me, the ALL through SAME BECAME. And apart from SAME became NOT YET ONE which HAS BECOME is speaking of God’s NEW CREATION of new CREATURES who are created IN Jesus Christ and WITHOUT Jesus there would be NO new creation created IN Jesus Christ. Please read the study P-3. God’s NEW Creation created in Jesus Christ!
Thanks for reading, and may God bless you richly as you continue to seek the TRUTH of the WHOLE word of Almighty God. And to me, the truth concerning who Jesus TRULY is, according to the Bible ITSELF, is the Biblical Unitarian view of Jesus. So, for ALL of the studies on the Biblical Unitarian view of Jesus, please click on the subject heading >>>D-0. THE BIBLICAL UNITARIAN VIEW of JESUS!<<<
And for the SUBJECT on the true foundation of the church, please click on the subject heading >>>C-0. THE TRUE FOUNDATION OF THE CHURCH!<<< This way you can just send ONE link to those who you want to share the TRUE sound Biblical FOUNDATIONAL teachings of the church that Jesus and his Apostles taught in the first century church.
Your brother in our Lord Jesus Christ,
Brother Mark.
My heartfelt prayer is that all Christians RETURN to the TRUE FOUNDATION of the church that is taught by the very Apostles of Jesus in the first century. So let us all come into the UNITY of the faith and return to what Jesus and his Apostles taught us in SIMPLICITY in the New Testament.
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VERSES USED TO TEACH THAT JESUS PREEXISTED!
To me, the best way to know the ONE true God in ONE person is to know who Jesus TRULY is according to the WHOLE word of Almighty God. So please read ALL of the studies under the heading >>>N-0. WHO is JESUS ACCORDING to the BIBLE?<<< and you will see that the Bible itself teaches us that Jesus was CREATED by his God and Father. And if you have any questions related to the correct meaning of certain verses of Scripture on this subject of who Jesus is please read all the studies under the two headings >>>U-0. VERSES used for THE TRINITY!<<< and >>>V-0. VERSES used to TEACH that Jesus PRE-EXISTED!<<< These two headings have ALL of the studies that I have on who Jesus truly is according to what the Bible itself teaches us in simplicity. I compiled these three headings to make it easy for my readers to send just one, two, or three links to those you desire to help understand what the Bible itself teaches concerning who Jesus is in the LIGHT of the WHOLE word of Almighty God. If you have any questions, please feel free to write to me.
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Thanks again for reading and may God bless you richly as you continue to seek the truth of the whole word of Almighty God.
Your Brother in our Lord Jesus Christ,
Brother Mark.
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